Canada A v USA Selects - APC 2017

October 15 2017

Canada vs USA - APC 2017

Canada Lose to USA 45-26 - Comeback Stalled by Chatter: FULL MATCH VIDEO

Canada fell to USA 45-26 to wrap up the tournament. Canada's record was 0-3 while USA were 2-1, it's the second year in a row Canada have returned without a win.

There were some bright spots for Canada their scrum and maul were effective. The forwards were able to pound and ground effectively when they needed to and scored a try with that tactic. Overall however it's another disappointing result for a program that is desperate for a win.

Canada were in the match for most of the game, at 70 minutes they only trailed by 7, 33-26.

A turning point was at 71 minutes when Canada were pushing the American scrum back into their goal area, it looked like Canada might tie the match. The ref blew it up however saying both front rows went up. On the reset Cole Keith and the replacement American loosehead were jostling for head position before the ball was put in. It seems the call came in from the assistant ref on that side to award USA a free kick, something that seemed to annoy Keith a lot, possibly justified as Canada were the better scrum and the American loosehead seemed to be pushing early to gain an advantage. The video then shows the AR complaining to the ref with the phrase "OK You F@ck" being heard, next Cole Keith gets issued a yellow card. With the man advantage the USA scored two late tries for the win.


It's just been Canada's luck lately that this type of call gets in the way of a possible comeback. The video doesn't show the incident live, whether Keith was shouting at the opposing prop or the official, or just venting out loud. Hopefully these officials won't be involved in the Canada v Uruguay world cup qualifying series, otherwise grammar and etiquette lessons will be required, or perhaps learn to swear in French, Canada's other official language... Merde works well as an expletive and likely won't get a card. BCRN should come out with a Cole Keith line of T-Shirts with inspirational sayings, the first one pretty well writes itself.

The full match is below as well as the Rugby Canada report. With the NZ Maori game on the horizon and then the November tour we look at the players and their chance of moving forward.


Front Row
The starting front row today have a good shot of moving forward, Buydens, Barkwill, Keith. They did everything asked of them in the sets. There's no one pushing Barkwill out even though he's getting into the latter part of his career. The same could be said of Buydens. Cole Keith is the best young prop. Ilnicki, Tierney, Djustice will be pushing for prop assignments as well. It's not clear who will be available for the Maori match and then for the European games.

Second Row
Connor Keys the best of the bunch on this tour, might get to go forward as there's not a lot of depth at second row. Olmstead and Beukeboom were the starters in June.

Loose Forwards
Gilmour had his best match of the tour today, busy around the park but came off early, not sure if that was injury or not but he was the best loose forward for Canada today. The opposing #8 scored four tries today so that doesn't reflect well on the group. In June it was Ardron, Heaton and Carpenter, Baillie also in the mix. Will Rumball get another shot? Nanyak Dala is back playing and he represents a time when Canada had a lot of depth in that position with Adam Kleeberger, Chauncey O'Toole and others. Is Admir Cejvanovic still in the picture?

The pair playing for James Bay this weekend, Phil Mack and Connor Braid are ahead of Ferguson and Povey. Neither did particularly well in this tournament. Shane O'Leary another name that may show up. Parfrey didn't do that well either when he started #10. Also is McRorie still up for selection? Is Theo Sauder ever going to get a look?

Not a lot of production from Parfrey and Nieuwenhuysen, Nieuwenhuysen had some good straight ahead runs but was awkward with offload attempts and lost a few balls. Needs to improve footwork to be more evasive. In June it was Blevins and Trainor, Andrew Coe in the mix out wide or in the centres. Ciaran Hearn still active if available. Ben Lesage perhaps, Brock Staller, there are plenty of centres at that level, depends who can bring their A game on a consistent basis.

Back Three
Lloyd looked the most dangerous of the back three but he loses the ball too easily and Canada can't afford that. With DTH and Paris, if available, no one is going to knock them out of position. For fullback Coe or Hearn perhaps. Dan Moor, Anton Ngongo, there are a few speedsters worth looking at. We forgot Jeff Hassler, thanks to @WPrugbyjeff for pointing that out, now healthy and ready to go... knock on wood.

from Rugby Canada

MONTEVIDEO, URUGUAY – Canada ‘A’ dropped their final game of the 2017 World Rugby Americas Pacific Challenge 45-26 on Sunday to USA Selects.

Canada ‘A’ had tries from Kainoa Lloyd, Ray Barkwill, Lucas Rumball & Guiseppe du Toit, while Robbie Povey added three conversions.

USA Selects #8 Henco Germishuys, who was awarded the Man of the Match, scored four tries in the victory, while Bryce Campbell, Angus MacLellan and Ruben de Haas added singles.

Canada’s Men’s Rugby Team will now recoup and prepare for their upcoming November internationals, including the highly-anticipated fixture against the New Zealand Maori All Blacks on November 3rd at BC Place in Vancouver. Following that match Canada will depart for Europe and will face Georgia (Tbilisi), Spain (Madrid) and Fiji (France) on the 11th, 18th and 25th respectively.

Newly appointed Head Coach Kingsley Jones will arrive in Canada next week to work with the domestic based players, along with coordinating availability with overseas professionals.

Canada v USA Wraps Up Americas Pacific Challenge Tournament: Kickoff 10am PT Sunday: LIVE VIDEO STREAM

Canada wraps up its tournament on Sunday morning against nemesis USA. Canada are the only team without a win so far in the tournament as USA defeated Uruguay in their last match after falling to Samoa in their first match. Canada have lost to Argentina and Tonga.



The front row sees Buydens return to loosehead, Cole Keith to tighthead and Barkwill as hooker. Wadden and Keys are the second row, the same pairing from Game 1 vs Argentina. Dobravsky starts at #8 ahead of Larsen and Gilmour and Rumball retain the flanker positions.

Ferguson and Povey are the halfback combination with Parfrey moving to inside centre and Nieuwenhuysen the outside. The back three sees Lloyd, Du Toit and Desmond.

It's the best combination with the players selected for the tour. Dobravsky has been more of a threat than Larsen at #8, Parfrey did better at centre than at #10, Lloyd has been the outside threat so far and there hasn't been much counter attack from fullback so Du Toit gets a chance there. Buydens still hasn't hit his top form but his experience will help, Barkwill the most gritty and combative of the hookers, Keith the top prop and the future. We'll hope for the best.

The Americans have a few players from Seattle Saracens in the match day 23. Aladdin Schirmer has been getting high marks from opposing teams in the BCRN write ups, Psalm Wooching also has been well regarded by opponents in the BC Premier league. Ben Landry played for Saracens last year but has moved to Glendale this season.

Canada will have to match the physicality of the USA in the forwards to prevail in this match. It's been an area of concern in the two previous matches.

The game will be streamed live on with also the promise of YouTube live stream.

from Rugby Canada

MONTEVIDEO, URUGUAY – Canada ‘A’ head coach Mike Shelley has made 11 changes to his starting roster to close out the 2017 Americas Pacific Challenge on Sunday against USA Selects.

Sunday will see six changes in the forwards, with Hubert Buydens, Ray Barkwill, Cole Keith, Adrian Wadden, Lucas Rumball and Dustin Dobravsky getting the start. Captain Kyle Gilmour, who scored against Tonga ‘A’ on Wednesday, will once again lead the team from blindside flanker and Conor Keys remains in the second row.

Canada ‘A’ backline will see another five changes from the previous match: Andrew Ferguson replaces Jorden Sandover-Best, Conor Desmond moves to the wing from outside centre, Patrick Parfrey moves to inside-centre, Mike Nieuwenhuysen returns to the starting XV and Guiseppe Du Toit moves to fullback.

Canada ‘A’ is searching for its first win of the campaign, having lost 71-17 to Argentina XV & 31-15 to Tonga ‘A’, while the USA Selects are 1-1 having defeated Uruguay 49-36 and lost to Samoa ‘A’ 48-26.

Kick off on Sunday is 1pm ET/10am PT and you can watch live at

Canada’s Men’s ‘A’ Team to face USA Selects:

1. Hubert Buydens – (New Orleans Gold/Prairie Wolf Pack) Saskatoon, SK
2. Ray Barkwill – (Seattle Seawolves/Ontario Blues) Niagara Falls, ON
3. Cole Keith – (Bellesile Rovers/Atlantic Rock) Sussex, NB
4. Adrian Wadden – (Leeds Beckett University/Ontario Blues) Mississauga, ON
5. Conor Keys – (UVIC Vikes/Atlantic Rock) Stittsville, ON
6. Kyle Gilmour – Captain (St. Albert RFC/Prairie Wolf Pack) St. Albert, AB
7. Lucas Rumball – (Balmy Beach RFC/Ontario Blues) Mississauga, ON
8. Dustin Dobravsky – (Castaway Wanderers/BC Bears) Hanover, Germany
9. Andrew Ferguson – (Oakville Crusaders/Ontario Blues) Mississauga, ON
10. Robbie Povey – (Castaway Wanderers/Prairie Wolf Pack) Northampton, UK
11. Conor Desmond – (Calgary Irish/Prairie Wolf Pack) Rideau Ferry, ON
12. Patrick Parfrey – (Swilers RFC/Atlantic Rock) St. John’s, NL
13. Mike Nieuwenhuysen – (Brampton Beavers RFC/BC Bears) Brampton, ON
14. Kainoa Lloyd – (Mississauga Blues/Ontario Blues) Mississauga, ON
15. Guiseppe du Toit – (UVIC Vikes/BC Bears) Maple Ridge, BC
16. Martial Lagain – (Sherbrooke Abenakis/Atlantic Rock) Saint-Jean-de-Marsacq, France
17. Liam Murray – (Langley Rugby Club/BC Bears) Langley, BC
18. Ryan Kotlewski – (Westshore RFC/Prairie Wolf Pack) Calgary, AB
19. Liam Chisholm – (Castaway Wanderers/BC Bears) Kenora, ON
20. Travis Larsen – (James Bay AA/BC Bears) Parksville, BC
21. Jorden Sandover-Best – (UBC Old Boys Ravens/BC Bears) Vancouver, BC
22. Brett Johnson – (Truro Saints/Atlantic Rock) Truro, NS
23. Aidan McMullan – (St. Anne-de-Bellevue RFC/Atlantic Rock) Montreal, QC

1 Alex Maughan / Life University
2 Peter Malcolm (C) / Wheeling Jesuit
3 Angus MacClellan / Chicago Lions
4 Brendan Daly (VC) / San Francisco Golden Gate
5 Matthew Jensen / Brigham Young University
6 Ben Landry / Glendale Rugby
7 Aladdin Schirmer / Seattle Saracens
8 Hanco Germishuys / Austin Huns
9 Holden Yungert / Saint Mary's College
10 Mike McCarthy / Saint Mary's College
11 Tim Maupin / Trinity Rugby
12 Bryce Campbell / Glendale Rugby
13 Lemoto Filikitonga / San Francisco Golden Gate
14 Josh Whippy / Brigham Young University
15 Jean-Pierre Eloff / Life University
16 Alex Vorster / Brigham Young University
17 Kelepi Fifita / Glendale Rugby
18 Chance Wenglewski / Lindenwood University
19 Brendan Hardiman / San Francisco Golden Gate
20 Psalm Wooching / Seattle Saracens
21 Ruben de Haas / Little Rock Stormers
22 Ben Cima / Rocky George
23 Mitch Wilson / Life University

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